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>> hello, everyone, and welcome to the amanpour. our haiti is where we're headed this >> i think our policy has got to be very clear, not another nickel conditioning usa to israel to stop the carnage in gaza bernie sanders, the senator from vermont, joins me, then one of the exonerated central park 5, yusef salaam tells me about his extraordinary journey from prisoner to elected new york city council member, having been run over about a spike wheels of justice >> i >> was i thought that that was the end of my life, plus, i believe she's like she's my glute and i believe she's alive. >> the story that grip the world ten years since boko haram kidnapped almost 300 nigerian school girls some have still to return >> and the >> art of the possible 26 years since brokering peace in northern irend. a ok bk at my engine with the leader behind this historic peace deal

everywhe would prefer to work together and be at war. >> also, this hour, staying positive despite the dread aguing the planet america' f climate corresent, bill, we're, 's so of a double-edged coin. you got to ho sort of fear d hope in your hd at the same time welcome to the program, everyone, i'm christiana, i'm on poor in new york this week it is an uneasy time here in the united states as the fate of the country. and in fact, much of the world hangs to a great extent in the balance. just months away from yet another biden-trump matchup president biden hopes that his strong commitment to democracy and his record on the economy climate, and women's rights will win out. and he hopes to overcome dissent in his own party. that's mounting over the war in gaza. every week, more and more democrats are expressing frustration with

american policy. some heavyweights, including former house speaker he can nancy pelosi, and now even joining the call for us to stop arms transfers to israel. and of course, protesters continue to mount what is really a growing peace movement? senator bernie sanders has been one of the loudest voices on this issue. and 82 years old, he manages to be the voice of young liberals and many others. and he warns that if biden doesn't change tack on the israel war and doesn't expand his economic policy for working families at home. he could lose in november senator sanders join me from washington. welcome back to our program. senator. so we've laid ouyo criticisms of the at, hey, what do you want him tothat he hasn't ne up until no >> christiane, we are looking right now in gaza at one of the worst humanitarian diste in

the modern history of the world. hundreds of thousands of people face starvation our children are dying from malnutrition 80% of the population has been displaced over half the buildings have been damaged or destroyed and israel continues to make a difficult to get the tiny aid that desperate people need >> so to my >> mind, the most important thing the united states government can do say to mr. netanyahu, you know what you cannot continue this disastrous, horrific war you cannot allow children by the thousands, the face starvation or you're not getting another nickel. now i think one of the congruencies that a lot of people in america see, is everybody has criticizing netanyahu as in the next word, oh, him us didn't you? here's a little 14 billion on top of

the three-and-a-half billion you've got your terrible guy, you're doing trible things. but here's your money. i think r policy has got to be very cle tanya'ght-wing extremist goment. whil hundreds of thousaof people inaza face starvation peod and said, i want to know what you think about the election coming up in this country that prident den iserunning with former president trump. do you believe given wha' happen in so of the primaries,he protest vote, that this r will hurt november? biden at the pls in >> yes, i . >> the choice is very, very clear. i think trump will be a disaster if elected for this country, a very dangerous person was undermining american democracy every day but to answer your question, i think in terms of how young people how people of color, a feel about the president. this is being negatively impacted by

the support for israel that he has shown. i think that's got to change and we are doing our best to try to get that to change. >> so you've mentioned president trump he is, you know, seems to be caught between his own rock and his own hard place about abortion. now, he started the backlash, having nominated very, very conservative judges who rolled back rovers does wade and now he's saying that the latest decision by the courts, which presumably are independent in arizona that go back 160 years in terms of abortion, rights are no abortion rights. he say that's mistake and we're going to straighten out. what is your comme on that christiana >> the >> difficulty we have in trying to respond to trump and i say this, it has said with all due respect, he's a pathological liar. so what he says today is not what he will say tomorrow. he will lie about virtually everything. i'll trump boasts.

he boasts that he appointed three right-wing supreme court justices to overturned roe v. wade he may, i >> think he is catching on to the reality that is backfiring within the general population. the american people do not want to go back 50 years, women of this country of fought to be able to control their own body, fought for women's rights, and overwhelmingly not only virtually all democrats, but many republicans are saying this is absurd to take away basic rights that women have. one >> as we all know, president biden was the first sitting president to go to a picket line, uaw his former chief of staff is saying though that instead of his campaign looking back and trying to boast or whatever get credit for them for that for their this that they've done already. ty've toook foard and look good. the economy ing

forward. do you agree with that? >> 100% luck biden has the right to take credit for a number of important initiatives and you should, should be proud of what he's accomplished but at the end of the day in america today, and this has been the case for a long, long ti. you got a working class, which is really hurting 60% of people living paycheck to heck yo've got people all over ameri cannot afford the risi cost of housing. you have a health care system which is broken and dysfunctional repay twice as much per capita health care as people of any other country. at 85 billion americans are uninsured or under enjoyed our child care system is a disaster. people don't have pensions so we have enormous problems. bottom line economy today that it's n an working really, really, really good 4 billion aza. the 1% not working for the middle-class or the working class of this

country. and the president understands that. >> but he's gotta >> get out in front and say, look, this is my agenda. we're going to raise the minimum wage to a living wage. we're going to make it easier for workers, the support unions. we're going to do away with was student debt. and he's making some progress on that. but you need an agenda that speaks to the pain of working families who too often have felt neglected, which is why trump is gaining support from them >> senator bernie sanders, thank you very much indeed for joining us >> thank you >> coming up later on the show. when america wage peace, my conversation from the archives with bill clinton, tony blair, and virginia in northern ireland. >> but >> first, the incredible journey of yusef salaam falsely convicted at 15 from the central park five to new york city councilman >> we will hoping that a person who became the future president of these united states would equally say, you know what, i

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four other teens, they were falsely accused of raping a jogger but in central park in 1989, the media went all out, assuming their guilt introducing the dehumanizing word wilding, and the group became known as the central park five salam spent nearly seven years in prison for a crime that he didn't commit he and the others were exonerated after the real perpetrator confessed and submitted dna to prove it. a religious man to his core, yusef salaam refused to be beaten by bitterness and began this year being sworn in as the elected council or for harlem. and we talked about all of this when we sat down together here in manhattan yusef salaam, counselors salam, welcome to the program. >> my pleasure and thank you for having me. >> i was a journalist based here in new york when all of this happened, and i covered some of what happened to you i want to know whether you ever thought that you would get from that point of the worst time in

your life to being an elected city council member in new york? >> i think that that perhaps was the furthest thing from my mind as a young 15-year-old child, having been run over about a spike, was of justice i was i thought that that was the end of monday. if i thought that my life would never be the same. and of course it has never been the same. but to be an elected official wow >> never imagined. >> and there's just so much power, elected power, power from the people that you have right now to >> i'm going to just >> use this word, avenger yourself of what was done to you so when you think about the police, for instance, and police reform what do you think cut off their funding, put them in and accountability box. what do you think being a servant of the >> people and being a person who's not just been close to

the pain, but has been in pain a lot of the experiences that our community experiences. i've experienced firsthand you know, and so being a spokesman for the people as an elected official is different for me because i get the opportunity to really use that in a really powerful way, right i never say things like defund the police because i feel like the police are necessary. but when i think about all of the things that police departments do and police officers do. i know that there's ways that we can right. size budgets? we can allow for the right person to respond to the right situation. and oftentimes that's not the police. >> you are asked in your first hearing is chairman, at the public safety committee. you press the nypd to explain how it prevents wrongful convictions. now, you will obviously wrong hopefully convicted along with the other four. did you get an answer? >> what i know about the detective that interrogated us,

they knew that they were getting inconsistent and incorrect stories. they knew that what they were hearing as false statements just to save the lives of us who were trying to figure out how to get out of the nightmare that we will now in. >> so you would trying to just tell him anything to get them to stop whatever harsh treatment and get yourself out was. >> so i didn't make a false confession, but four of my comrades did but i'm saying that when you listen to those confessions, every single one of them with different i'll never forget. in the central park five documentary, raymond santana reads as false confession he stops midway through, looks up at the camera. have remember being in the audience watching with the audience and he would he ask the question, what 14 year-old boy talks like this? and it was you could hear the audible gasp in the room. it was almost as if everyone had realized that they've been tricked. two, was the shame was there shark was

there regret for what they'd done to you? >> you know, for for me >> my >> experience in what i call the womb of america. i know oftentimes in our community they call it the belly of the beast was different there was a knowing of sorts from many of the officers. they knew that i wasn't supposed to be there and they gave me grace and mercy. they allow me to read books and draw a you read a lot of mandela he said, to be angry and bitter is like drinking poison and expecting your enemy to die brilliant. >> i had to digest that because i was angry. i was upset. i did not understand how could the system run over us with a spike wheels of justice? and then one over us again and leah us out flat. i couldn't understand it

i wanted to have someone even when we were found innocent, we were hoping for an apology. we were hoping that a person who became the future president of these united states would equally say, you know what, i took out a full-page ad in 1989 colin, for your death? i'm sorry. instead, i'm going to take out a full page ad n call for an apology for you. instead, he doubled down. >> this is donald trump. and again, we all remember these ads in the newspapers in new york calling for a reinstatement? the death penalty. here he doubled down. they admitted their guilt. >> yes. >> and now, i don't know what you think, whether it's karma faith, or whatever, but this is a twice indicted fellow. are impeach rather he's got four indictments, 91 charges what do you think this is a very crafty

individual i >> say that >> because this there's, there's been a love affair of sorts. with donald trump. his name was everywhere and on everything but i think that >> for him to craft what's going on with him by saying, hey, i'm just like you i'm indicted to >> so what he's saying now it's a slap in the face when you think about all of the things that happens with the injustice that we experience. and i think when i think about all of this, all of it we have the seder ourselves >> what >> we deserve as a country is a united states of america and nauta divided states of america. >> and you've obviously got the fight in the belly. yusef salaam. thank you so much. >> indeed, my pleasure. thank you. >> and on that point, he tells me that one of his main priorities is affordable housing for his constituents

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>> welcome back. >> tomorrow marks >> a decade since tara became reality in chewbacca nigeria sparking a global cry to bring back our girls when nearly 300 innocent students were kidnapped by boko haram militants, many of those who had taken have yet to return home and kidnapping is become a recurring horror in the country. now, cnn, stephanie booth, sorry, takes us to wet tragedy unfolded as part of cnn's ongoing series on gender inequality called as equals >> the row to chip-seq northeastern nigeria ten years on from the kidnapping of nearly 300 schoolgirls we've come to meet some of the girls who were taken that night in april 2014 and see how the threat of abduction still shapes children's lives here. >> they account for this. this

war and there were many cards, many yes, triathlon and our was just 16 when she was snatched from her boarding school late at night by boko haram militants i a bond you for writing exam. >> so they burned the hole where you were supposed to write your exactly. they were really against education that munch but islam is group took more than 270 girls into the vast sum b, so forest boots, some managed to escape i mean, now 27 was also abducted that night, told buy boko haram leaders that marriage was the only way to avoid repeated abuse by fighters in the camp >> fall. tickles as a slave and then anytime you want to sleep with to use two and they are way he tired of you who hand over to someone i just think

that i agree to get to the one person >> she was the first of the two bought girls to escape after being held in a forest emerging with her book or am husband, who also fled the group and the young baby after two years now, eight years old, amica, his daughter has faced stigma for being a child of a boko haram fighter school kidnappings a shadow that hanger with the education system in northern nigeria with an estimated 1,700 children abducted from school in the past decade. according to amnesty international just last month, more than 100 students, some as young as eight we've taken by armed men who stormed their school in kuriga kadena province in recent years, criminal gangs have greater the kidnapping for ransom industry spanning across a northwest, the country, which successive governments have struggled to grapple with

>> the failure of governance around the chip of girls issue lead to an industry of abduction. is society that has stumped regard for human life. >> many nine german mothers are now too scared to send them to school >> guess what? she bought gas tragedy de it made the mother's feel guilty. in their mind that what the d by arguing for education for their daughter was to say pay with your life in order to be educated, fewer than 50% of nigerian girls attend school at a basic education level according to a unicef report in a country with 5% of the world's children by 2030. >> the >> united nations has said, quote, what happens to children in nigeria matters significantly? to regional and global development >> back in >> chewbacca, for many mothers, the pain continues a decade on

jana's daughter, riff co2 was among the tubercles stolen from school and remains missing along with 81 others. do you believe in your heart? >> yes. and that >> she's alive. i believe she's alive. she's my blood and i believe she's a life >> she's kept her daughter's clothes ready for when she returns this is how we keep it. we always wash the clothes folded and then keep it steady as now never given up. hope. despite the agony she and so many parents in nigeria have to endure stephanie put sorry cnn ceb. okay. >> nigeria it is heart-breaking in this ten year horror of kidnapping has left a terrible mark on so many of those girls on their families. and of course, on the education system in that country, which is the future coming up jazz legend

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the program. now from the torrential floods in libya to the deadly fires, as that said, hawaii and chili ablaze, climate catastrophes are on the rise and following the hottest year and ocean heat breaking records temperatures, scientists say the world is not prepared for what's to come. but despite all the despair that is still room for hope that is, according to bill, weird, cnn's chief climate correspondent, who spent years covering are warming planet and looking at the solutions. his book, life as we know it, can be goes on sale on april 16 and he's joining me now from new york bill, we're welcome to the program. >> great night. >> you just want to ask you because it's so important to give people hope and to focus on things that actually go right so just as i said, you've been covering a for so long. what now gives you hope?

>> well, what gives me hope christiane is that we are really just made of stories, everything in our lives are stories we agree on in the moment. and those stories are under constant revision. we are going through sort of an invisible industrial revolution, a revolution right now as the world electrifies texas, that maybe the red estate united states, leads the country in green energy way more than california and florida. they're putting more solar online because the economics just make sense for the first time in human history, our cheapest fuels are not the ones we have to burn. the cheapest fuels are now solar plus battery. and onshore wind. and the economic omics. a trumping the ideology and sort of political resistance in places like texas right now. and so in this book, i'm trying to impart to my kids both a warning about the world we built for them. by mistake, but all these amazing doers and dreamers and helpers who are trying to find a better, a better future for everybody you talk about your kids and dedicating this book to them

and even the in the book apologizing for our generation's failure. nonetheless, we're trying to do what we can but you also say that none of this that you've just said, the success is the movement would have happened without young people >> exactly, exactly that >> it wouldn't >> happen without greta thunberg, one young person who decided to start skipping school and have this lonely climate strike. and that caught the imagination of her peers around the world. and the one of the plus sides of social media. i also read about the very severe downsides of social media is that it can connect you to people around a shared cause bigger than yourself. it can create community that then when they went out into the streets and camped out into the halls of the senate on congress some shadow down the corridors of power absolutely helped move the needle on the most ambitious climate legislation. not only here, but around the world. and we can argue over the strength or weaknesses of that policy. but those kids deserve some credit, i think,

and not just young people, but old people, elderly people. i don't know what you thought this week about the success in europe. and in a swiss court. the swiss grannies basically taking their human rights not to be overheated to court and winning exactly. >> that is sort of the other end of the age spectrum from the kids and montana who want to stare the first constitutional right to a healthful environment other states not trying to try to add that in. there are dozens of cases in american courts where municipalities, states, tribes, or shoeing big oil companies for essentially lying to the public for generations about the harm they, they knew that their product would cause. it is those granny's turning their anxiety into action in a peaceful systematic way. hey, and we'll see if that catches, catches fire anyway, ultimately though christiane, they're up against the richest companies in human history who not only are enjoying the most biggest profits in human history, but are still getting billions and

direct and indirect subsidies. so the social license of our fossil fuel lives very few people pick at gas stations, they go after pipelines, but until the consumption piece of this is sorted out but ultimately the decision makers who could shift their business model to a much more sustainable direction has some, as some in europe have done, you could fit these guys the c-suite or is in a few big buses. so while it's important, i think for our kids and our families to understand each decision has a cost the decision-makers now more than ever, are the ones that are going to move the needle. >> i wonder what you think about the messaging and the storytelling. i remember christiana figueres, who was the wonderful un climate rep. who basically shepherded through the 20 climate treaty back in paris she was always telling us, don't just focus on the doom and gloom you must give people hope. you must tell them about the successes. do you think we do that enough? >> no, i don't. and i and i've

learned this on the job as the first sort of chief climate correspondent of any network we're sort of making that above as we go and it's tempting to to lean on the fear and warning button because there's plenty of reason for that. but we resonate with stories because there's an ark and there's always a hopeful arc. what the, the person who taught me the best tip for covering climate was mr. rogers, who said when he saw something scary on tv, his mother would say, look for the helpers, there's always helpers rushing into the disasters. and so now i get to go meet helpers who are building thermal battery plants or are figuring out ways to use nature-based solutions to pull carbon out of the sea and sky and they are imagining a better world for their kids. and i think the more we share that it's sort of a double-edged coin. you got to hold sort of fear and hope in your head at the same time, bill, we're out correspondent and author of life, as we know, it can be. thank you so much. >> thank you. christiane. >> and coming up next from the archives, when the peacemakers

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possible with war raging in gaza, the israeli palestinian conflict may feel more intractable than ever. peace may feel like a really, really distinct possibility, but there was a time when northern ireland felt like that as well. after decades of brutal sectarian conflict and terrorist violence, its leaders and its people bravely chose peace and this week, they celebrated 26 years since the good friday agreement that secured it it remains one of the united states greatest diplomatic triumphs as president bill clinton and senator george mitchell help broker those talks along with british prime minister tony tony blair, and the irish prime minister birdie your hearn. and of course, northern irish leaders themselves, they got the deal over the line. and last year on its 25th anniversary, i traveled to belfast to speak to clinton blair, and ahern a peacemakers reunion. and here's some of

that conversation >> the origin story. so president clinton even in your campaign before the 92 election, you talked about this to irish americans. you said you would put all your abilities behind trying to get peace why, why did it matter so much? >> i always felt when i started talking to irish americans, what i was running for president that we can make a positive difference if we were fair to both sides and i knew that to do that, we'd have to do something that that was then prevailing would think was unfair, which was to get involved because the our whole diplomacy was built around our special relationship with the uk, which included staying away from ireland >> prime minister khan, was it that mostly the alignment of the stars, so to speak, in terms of leadership was it also about the people on the ground

>> yeah. the >> parties have people underground love, i think from our point of view and to have the president united states being genuinely interested and build to give time and to stay up at night. i mean, where we are a small country and you would expect i was just so lucky that tony and i got on so well. >> george mitchell has said, i can't remember the figures, but it was hundreds and hundreds of hours and days of negotiations that finally led to yes. but it may have gone the other way. >> can >> you recount and reflect on how difficult actually mean it sounds like, you know, everybody is ready to do it, but it actually was very difficult to get the good friday agreement i don't think we could have got this off the ground if we hadn't been prepared to talk to everyone. and then the really is this thing about the people being prepared to act in a way that isn't politically conventional. >> so

>> 30 years, the irish taoiseach, i mean, he could have stuck in a fairly traditional irish position on everything, but he didn't and that we each liberated each other. so it became easier for him to intervene constructively when it looked like everyone was being involved there was a seat at the table well, for everyone, the whole point about a peace process. you're never gonna get anywhere unless everyone's prepared to take risks for peace. and you either spend your political capital or you hoarded. and for all sorts of various reasons people decided to spend it. i think for those politicians in northern ireland, who after all, we're the ones that had today take the most difficult decisions. those are the people here. >> i read that david trimble the obviously the unionist leader at the time. his deputy, said that he took this good friday agreement to ramallah, showed it to yasser arafat, who was the head of the palestinian authority and so this is your blueprint for success

>> present, denton right >> now, the people who cheered on the death of the peacemaker, yitzhak rabin are in government there's nowhere to, it seems like there's nowhere to go and what do you think? i mean, when you look at this blue blueprint why do you think it hasn't worked elsewhere, for instance, let's just state the middle east well the differences in a bit, let's start with the middle east. tony spent years working on us, but they started with a different model i mean, when we signed the middle east peace agreement in 93 he also quotes on the south lawn of the white house everyone's assumption was that they had to work for a two-state solution and they would argue for a few years about what to do with the unresolved issues and what to do with a line drawing but that

the israelis wish to remain remain a majority jewish state. but to be at peace with there palestinian neighbors who would have their own state. if we could work out the myriad questions that had to be worked out. so we started with a different model. they started with a model here that they could share the future and that they had not enough land to fight over. and they had to work together so i think the real question is the middle east is now waiting for somebody to answer the now what question? because i i still believe that people everywhere would prefer to work together than be at war >> now, that was one year ago before the full-blown israel-hamas war in gaza. and president clinton's words couldn't be more prescient. his question now what still holds without bold peacemaking

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will opera and music for the soul. and a history-making show at the met here in new york, fire shut up in my bones by the grammy award winning trumpeter terence blanchard, made history as the first work by a black composer at the metropolitan opera in 138 years. and now it is back. i went to the met to meet him. most people frankly do not think of black operas, right? african-americans recreating opera. >> it's usually the old white guys, europe, who are the canon and have remained so for several hundred years. >> what would you >> say to people who are just surprised? i mean, it's different opera, right? >> well, the thing is it's not just the composers, but the performance as well as one journalist asked me, he said that you think your app is going to inspire young people

to sing opera. and i'm like bro and peopleave red ma singing opera for genetions. people out there whoave e stories to tell. and the thing the thing that i've been saying two and i rely mean this i don't want to a token. wanto be a turnkeyhat needs peoplef other backgrounds, e ethnic bacroun telling stors because th's what the blic, al fl wants see >> don't forget. you cafind all our shows onle as podcasts and cnn.com slash dcast and an all otherajor platrms, i'm christiane amanpour in w york. ank you for watching and we'll see you again next week. we want to leave you with a little more of this wonderful opera